How to make good conversation

Good conversation is like pretty much anything else, if you try to hard to look for it, you’ll probably never find it. If you’re trying too hard to have a good conversation, then there’s no way you’ll have one, especially not one long enough to make a podcast. That’s what makes conversational podcasts so hard. If you run out of things to say, then you don’t have anything else. But even then, if you manage to come up with a 15 minute chat, it still might be rigid, boring, and unpleasant.

That’s why good conversation is important. Conversation isn’t like pizza or something, where even the worst is still pretty good. Bad conversation is just bad, and makes a podcast un-listenable. The first step is the right people. You can have good conversation with anyone, but the right people get the ball rolling a lot faster. Rapport with someone can come from years of friendship or just regular old chemistry with someone you just met, it really doesn’t matter. Good people also help you with being comfortable talking to someone about anything, which is the next step. You just have to say anything. You just have to say whatever it is your thinking about whatever it is you’re talking about, and you can’t be afraid to discuss or go too in depth on anything. If you have a thoughtful insight, you have to make it known, even if it does seem slightly off-topic or weird. Good discussion is often off-topic and weird. Things that come naturally are like that.

The topic of your discussion-based podcast is important sure, but if your conversation is good enough, you’ll find people like listening to it no matter what it is.

-Reese Hamilton



Olivia Cote Cookie Quest

Olivia Cote

Cookie Quest Reflection

I have learned a lot about creating podcasts during this class, and also techniques that will helped me with other classes during this semester and in the future as I further my education. During this class, I was a co host for four episodes of our podcast, Cookie Quest. This was a somewhat difficult topic for a podcast because there is not very much outright information on cookies, at least not enough to spend 20 minutes or more each episode talking about. That is where other techniques were necessary. We had to carry on banter between the three of us throughout the episode. Luckily, our humor and personalities meshed well together. Much of the time, we had to talk about other things that went on in our lives, in order for the audience to get to know us as people. This was important because as strangers, we had to make the audience care about what we had to say. In order for the audience to discover who we are, we had to go into detail about things like Reese’s unfortunate financial situation, his broken nose, my inability to stop eating cookie scraps to the point that I threw up, my unhealthy weekly snacking, and Mike’s scarring upbringing. I learned that it is important to hold nothing back during a conversational podcast, even if that meant poking fun at other hosts in good humor, or even making fun of yourself once in awhile. Listeners do not want to hear about superficial people talk about unrealistic lives, so humanizing myself through the truth was important. Another thing that was important was becoming close with my teammates Reese and Mike, because without the bond that we created we would not be able to talk about personal situations in a joking manner. Our teamwork and humor was an integral part of creating a fun environment for creating what seemed like an impossible task, talking for a total of almost two hours about cookies on a recording.

As a team, we faced many obstacles in creating these podcasts. Mike faced a serious medical problem during this semester, making it nearly impossible for him to meet with us in person. We overcame this by making sure that Reese and I attended almost every class in order to keep up with everyone else, and by calling Mike after class to catch him up. We maintained a group text and also had him with us over text, phone call, or Zencastr during our group work outside of class. Prior to recording a podcast, we called Mike to make sure we had everything in order. He used his outstanding leadership skills, experience with podcasting, and naturally great hosting skills to carry his weight in our group, despite his medical circumstances. I am very grateful for the relationship we built with each other and I feel I have gained two lasting friendships throughout this course. Reese and I spent countless hours together shopping for ingredients, baking cookies, walking home from class, and sitting in my room recording, preparing, and editing podcasts together. The bond that we formed helped us create funny and relaxed conversation during recording.

Because I was inexperienced with creating podcasts, my main job in the beginning was media. I created our logo using, our soundcloud account, and our logo, as well as descriptions for each. I followed my friends and family on twitter and tried to spread word of Cookie Quest using both twitter and Soundcloud. Everything I learned about making logos and social media accounts for a business venture other than myself are skills that I will carry with me throughout my careers later in life.

Eventually it came time for me to learn how to use Audacity to edit podcast. This took many hours but luckily Reese is a great teacher. I never realized how much attention to detail and grueling hours it takes to create a podcast worth listening to. You have to make sure everyone’s voices are as even as possible, edit out long pauses, create long pauses during recording to edit in a segment. When people talk over each other during recording, you have to drown out one voice and maximise the other. Background music is important and so is into and exit music, but I had no idea that you had to be careful of copyright prior to taking this class. There are so many little aspects that go into making a podcast that I was unaware of.

I used my new knowledge of how to use Audacity to make a podcast interview for my WRH333 class. After editing the third episode of CookieQuest with Reese, I learned enough to create a segment for another class and even teach others how to put their interviews into a podcast. This is just one instance of how this class has helped me grow as a student and as an individual.

Another way this class has helped me is by discovering podcasts in general. I has very little experience working with podcast, but almost as little experience listening to them prior to this class. Upon leaving class after thursday of week two, I approached Mike after class and asked how he listened to podcasts and which interested him. He gave me useful advice and that night when I drove home from campus I listened to TED talks and Serial. This opened my eyes to a whole new culture of podcasting, which I will continue to divulge in for years to come.

Between the time I spent attending class, baking, recording, and editing Cookie Quest, I feel that I have earned a good grade in the class. My team worked well together and although I was very hesitant about making a podcast about cookies, I think we did a decent job creating an entertaining show. I learned how to create a logo, soundcloud, twitter account, and how to edit a podcast. Most importantly however, I feel that I learned how to open up to a group of strangers, work with everyone’s schedule, and make a typically boring topic (cookies) a little more interesting. We tried to conquer the chocolate cookie, but ultimately found that it was unbeatable. All in all, we came half-circle with our cockiness and learned a lot about baking, podcasts, and each other in the process. I am proud of what we created, even if it was just a bunch of gross cookies.


Playing The Mysterious Role Player


The Unsolved is a podcast bringing you murder, mischief, and mystery. I’m a guy who enjoys recreational basketball, has a guilty pleasure of listening to Maroon 5, and has a heart attack when a squirrel jumps in front of my car.


Throughout my life I’ve enjoyed talking about sports and music, not serial killers and conspiracy theories. So how did I end up talking about the nation’s clown epidemic, the history of the Eastern State Penitentiary, aliens, and Santa’s creepy bro Krampus while thoroughly enjoying all of it? I turned myself into a character on a podcast.


No, I don’t have a nickname on the show and there’s not a continuous storyline. What I mean when I refer to my character is that I turn into someone else when I’m telling every episode’s story. My voice gets deeper without thinking and now I read every line with the intention of scaring listeners so much that they can’t sleep. For the first episode, I was casually reading the transcript right off of the script. But after getting feedback from a class listening session calling my natural voice creepy, I knew I had to lock into my character by making my voice even creepier than usual and use that tool I have for the podcast’s advantage.


With the semester coming to an end, The Unsolved is on halt, and could be finished forever. Regardless of what happens next, I’ve learned that having a role in a podcast is important, helpful and really fun. I enjoyed editing the podcasts, but recording alongside co-producers Abby and Sadie has been an even better experience.


If you make a podcast, find your niche, whatever it is. For now, I’m going to keep being the creepy dude who tells scary stories.

By Bobby White

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Don’t Forget to Promote!

What good is a podcast if no one hears it?

Making a podcast is a commitment, it takes a lot of time, energy, patience and teamwork. But all of that is worth it once you hear the end result. There is a large amount of pride that I would feel after every completed episode. Not just pride for myself, but pride for my teammates (and friends) who put a lot of work into making it perfect. I did not always host on every episode, but I still stayed involved and supported my fellow podcast team. It is an incredible feeling to create something yourself or with other people, and have it turn out better than you could have imaged. Especially when all three of you began the process with little to no experience in the field.

After we had our first two episodes completed and published onto SoundCloud, it was time to reach out to a larger audience. So far, just our small class and professor had listened to our podcast. Don’t get me wrong, they were (and continue to be) a great audience, but with all the hard work put into this we wanted more listeners.

Thus, The Unsolved Twitter account was created! I took on promoting our podcast through our Twitter account. The first two episodes were uploaded and tweeted out to our few followers. I sent out some tweets on our account to promote upcoming episodes and try and gain follower’s interests so they would listen when we published them. The problem was, we did not have enough followers at the time to really gain a fan-base.

I decided to search for other podcasts on Twitter, as well as, any and every account relating to crime, murder, mysteries or creepy things. I had no idea how to run a Twitter account that wasn’t my own personal one. I just tried somethings that I thought would work. Call it beginner’s luck if you will, but I saw great results.

Once we gained more followers, I would go onto accounts that followed us and look at their “followers” list. From there, I would go down the list and follow those accounts. I figured if they liked other creepy, mysterious twitter accounts, they might like our podcast. Once again, it worked! We continued to get more followers. I would be on our account at various times throughout the day just following accounts and promoting our podcast.

We currently have 290 Twitter followers, and the number continues to grow. This whole process has taught me that the podcast community is a big and friendly one. We have gotten shout-out tweets, people saying the love our show, and lots of support from all these people we don’t even know.

It just goes to show, hard work really does pay off.

Sadie Markley

Listen to our Spine-Chilling Episodes and Follow The Unsolved on Twitter